Dear Mr. Fogarty: I heve wanted for some time to send you an informal end personal report on our reaction to Admiral Rickover's suggestion that the Nation would benefit by the establish- nal standerds in education. You will suggestec th in testimony before you nS, urging th & voluntary plan be a group of distinguished o ote oO recall that he g on several ocecasio worked out under scholars. b cS find myself in hearty agreement with the Admiral that the fation does need a way of estimating where it stands in the quality of its work in educetion--end the parents need a 2 way of knowing how well their local school is doing. Soon ‘at bed after talking with you about these matters in the early winter, I had an hour's talk with Admiral Rickover to get a more detailed sense of what he had in mind. TI then asked the Brookings Institution to study his suggestions end to report their view on whether the method he proposed would accomplish what he had in mind. Brookings reported that in their opinion his proposel might have some serious unintended consequences and recommended that some other way be sought. Admiral Rickover had sug-~- gested that a set of tests be created by s group of scholars to be given to high school seniors if they wish to take them. Brookings pointed out that it was likely that the students who took them would probably be those whose parents were ambitious for them, or students who were already doing quite well academically. The results might therefore be skewed and not represent a fair sample of whet was happening with boys and girls at all levels of ability, ambition, end Pamily cireumstences. It is even concelvable that the results would suggest to the public that our high schools are doing better than they actually are because of the nature of the sample. s R yet T hated to stop at this point. Admiral Rickover obviously is dealing with a very important point. TIT have subsequently been eonsulting with a number of men who seen to me well qualified to advise ta this area: men such as Henry Chauncey, President of the Baucational Testing Service, Ralph Tyler of the Center for Advanced Study im the Beheviorel Seiences, and Jonn Gardner, President of the Carnegie Corporation. Our thinking has not yet jelled into a detailed program, but the oublines are getting clearer. The first step must be the establishment within the Office oP. Rdueation of a strong statistical unit, well qualified to carry out 3 good sampling program. The recent reports thet have cote in from Project Talent, conducted through the Cooperative Research Program, gives us the basis for a good way of collecting data, but is not inclusive enough as yet. What we need before we take the next step is to find a first- rate man to head up the program. ~ have had bad Luck in the last three months in trying to get such a man, but I can assure you thet we are still trying end will not give up. After he gets on board, I think we can describe @ detailed plan to you to carry out the intent of the Admiral's program. Francis Keppel Honorable John E. Fogarty House of Representatives 4 Washington 25, D.C.