CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE Mr. FOGARTY. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the motion of the gentle- man from Kentucky (Mr. Snyper]. Mr. Chairman, I had hoped that we would complete this bill an hour and a half ago. I dislike seeing politics brought into a library. bill, as seems to have been the ease today under the leadership of my friend from New Jersey. This bill originally was sponsored by the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. Lanpruml, back in 1956 and was ex- tended under the leadership of the gen- tleman from Alabama [Mr. Eunrorri by an almost unanimous vote in this House. It was passed by the Senate committee a few weeks ago by a vote of 89 to 7. Why in the world we are wasting so much time on a bill that so many people in every congressional district want is more than I can understand. I do not know of 9, library in any congressional district, TZ do not know of one person interested in the education of our youth in any con- eressional district, I do not know of a State officeholder of any State in the Union, who is cpposed to this particular bill. But under the leadership of the Republican Party in the House of Rep- resentatives this afternoon we are seeing for the first time since 1956 partisan politics injected into the question of the youth of our country and into our library situation. , As far as the gentleman from Ken- tuecky [Mr. Snyper] is concerned, there is no one I know of in our country who knows more about the needs of the libraries than the people attached to the American Library Association, I do not know of any person who has given us more information on the needs of the libraries than those American Library Association representatives who are. op- erating here in the Nation’s Capital. When the gentleman puts the American Library Association in the same company as the American Farm Bureau and others, he is doing a great disservice to everyone who has a sincere interest in libraries all over our country. The American Library Association is not a lobby organization. It is an asso- ciation of librarians, dedicated librarians, who aré working with great diligence to improve library facilities all over the country. , The Washington staff of this associa~ 729 tion has done a distinct service for all the people of every congressional district in these United States. I am personally grateful for the efforts they have ex- pended to improve the brary situation throughout the entire country for I know that any progress they are able to make nationwide will have a definite, salutary effect on my own congressional district aud the people I am privileged to rep- resent. If there is a State in the Union that needs a bill like this, that needs help to educate their youth, to establish schools and to get rid of poverty and illiteracy as we know it today, it is the State of Kentucky that the gentleman who has just spoken comes from. I do not believe there is a State in the Union that needs help more than the State of Kentucky. Why he is up here trying to emasculate this program is more than I can under- stand. . : When the gentleman from New Jersey iMr. Fae.INGHUYSEN] gets up here and tries to emasculate this program, to de- feat it, if you will, it disturbs me. Com- ing from the second most urbanized State in the country, second only to my own State of Rhode Island, in my opinion he is doing 4 disservice to every single person, not only in his own congressional district but in the entire State of New Jersey. They need this legislation just as much as Kentucky does. I can understand my friend, the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Bow], for the opposition he takes because he has always opposed it. He opposed it back in 1956, he opposed it when the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. Eviiorr] tried to get it extended, he is cpposed to it now. He is not in favor of amending it. He is opposed to the enactment of this kind oflegislation. _ Normally I can understand opposition to & bill but in this case I cannot under- stand it because Ohio is as bad off as any State in the Union. I just do not see any Member from Ohio voting against this kind of legislation or voting. for amendments that have the effect and in- tent of killing the legislation. As far as I know the leaders in every congressional district in the State of Ohio have endorsed this type of legislation. I know when $7.5 million was available there was not a person from Ohio who ever got up on the ficor and said, “We do not need the $7.5 million.” When the gentleman from New Jersey gets up here and says, “No, I want to give them a, little more money, I want to give them $15 million, I want to raise the popula- tion ratio from 10,000 to 20,000,” that does not mean a thing. It is just an at- tempt and a very obvious attempt to defeat this legislation. I am sorry that the leadership on the Republican side has allowed politics to be brought into what should be a non- partisan issue here today, the libraries of. our country. In my particular area, and I do not think mine is any different from Chic or New Jersey, since 1956 the loaning of books has doubled, the amount of money from 1956 that has been ap- propriated at the local and State level, 730 has increased by 100 percent. That is what this legislation has accomplished. Mr. .Chairman, my belief in the im- portance of public libraries is well known... I also believe that this bill, the Library Services and Construction Act, will make possible a giant step toward public li- brary services of real excellence for every citizen. ~Within its limitations, the Library Services. Act of 1956 has had amazing success in providing rural readers with more and. better books. Rhode Island began participating in this program. in 1958. Since that time 43 rural commu- nity libraries have received book grants, professional advisory services, and cen~ tralized book preparation. The super-~ visor of this program, Miss Elizabeth G. Myer, has reported that the number of books leaned from these libraries dou- bled between 1956 and 1963. Local ex- penditures for public libraries also in- creased about 100 percent over the same period. The substantial increase in the use of books is tangible evidence of im- proved facilities. ‘The significant in- erease in local appropriations demon- strates the success of the program in stimulating increased State and. local financial effort. The progress in other. States has matched that in Rhode Island. Since 1961, all eligible States and territories have been participating in this State- plan, matching-grant program. The ac- complishments of the act have been rece ognized and applauded, not only by li- brarians and congressional sponsors, but most importantly, by the 38 million rural readers who have used the improved services of their local libraries. It is es- sential to remember that this program is not for State libraries, or for local li- braries, or for librarians. It is for the 128 million citizens who neither have no local library whatever or who must use overcrowded, obsolete, and understaffed library facilities. The limitation of the present program to areas of less than 10,000 population has been a real handicap to every State. Iti has denied benefits to the sorely pressed larger libraries and, in turn, pre- vented their strengths from being fully utilized in extending services to rural and suburban areas. In Rhode Island, a heavily urbanized State, the number of people eligible for participation will in- crease from 146,054 to 859,488 if HLR. 4879 is passed. The rural population will continue to be helped under the proposed amend- ment; in fact, perhaps better than be- fore. By virtue of combining resources of all libraries—large, medium, and small, not to mention bookmobiles, a compre- hensive plan of library service can be achieved. The necessary efficiency in public library operation for the people of the United States can be achieved only by having public libraries of various sizes and in different localities cooperate jointly in the use of the resources of each. This bill will facilitate this situ- ation. An essential component of a good pub-- lic library system is adequate physical facilities. The present act specifically prohibits the use of funds for the pur- CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE. chase or construction of buildings or for the purchase of land because it is a li- brary services program and deals with villages and farming communities. In Rhode Island and throughout the coun- try too many of. our public libraries are struggling with overcrowded, dilapidated, and makeshift quarters. Other commu- nities have long outgrown the familiar Carnegie buildings which, on the aver- age, date from about 1920. Of ail public libraries in the Nation, only 4 percent have been constructed since 1940. H.R. 4879, the Library Services and Construc- tion Act, will provide $20 million in matching grants to give assistance and encouragement to communities like these. Some colleagues seem to be. worried about the proposed great. expenditure for the services and facilities of public libraries. In actuality, the Federal Gov- ernment is contributing only a small! per- centage to the deficiencies in funds for operating adequately our public libraries. In fiscal year 1961, for example, the total operating expenditures for public’ li- braries was $285 million, whereas accord- ing to minimum standards formulated by the American Library Association, the total amount spent for services should have been $480. million for that year, an annual gap in operating expenditures of $195 million. This bill proposes that in order to lessen the deficiency, the Fed- ~ eral. Government should contribute for library services the sum of $25 million, about. 12 percent of the’ gap. The Library Services Act of 1956 has made possible an excellent beginning. ‘I am so impressed by this progress that Iam confident of continued accelerating accomplishment. H.R. 4879, by correct- ing lacks in the present program, will advance the cause of good libraries to the point where each citizen can expect his public library to be an educational resource of excellence. . The American public library is a solid fortress in the war on poverty. Free to all, the public library meets the’ user on his own terms by providing the kinds of books and other library materials which he needs. Books, films, and recordings are expensive. Those adults who have just begun to read English, those laborers whose jobs have been automated, those immigrants whose original culture has not prepared them for life in our big cities cannot possibly afford to buy the informational materials they require. The free public library is their most im- portant single resource for this kind of assistance. I believe that H.R. 4879, the Library Services and Construction Act will allow States and localities to move swiftly and strongly toward the goal of good public library service for every citizen. This bill will greatly improve the present pro- gram being carried out under the Library Services Act of 1956. This ongoing pro- gram has had excellent success. Every eligible State and territory is fully par- ticipating and they are ready to move in this expanded program. Every State has been handicapped by the present lim- itation of assistance to areas of under 10,000 population. My State is heavily urbanized and this restriction denies as- January 21 sistance .to more than 700,000 persons. The removal of this limitation will aid the struggling public libraries in our urban and suburban areas. In addition, it will permit the efficient use of their resources in a way which will make them available to all those who need them, whether these users live in the city, the suburb, the small town, or in the open country. It. is impossible to imagine good public libraries without efficient, functional buildings. Far too many libraries, in Rhode Island, and throughout the land are rendered ineffective because of over- crowded and obsolete buildings. H.R. 4879 anticipates the joint need for im- proved services and for renewed physical facilities. The provision in this bill for construction is based on the demon- strated success of the State plan concept. The requirement of matching funds from State and local sources assures that this will be a program of stimulation and en- couragement. I believe that every level of government has a continuing respon- sibility for building library services of real excellence. The partnership pro- gram which has developed under the Li- brary Services Act now involves State, local, and Federal efforts in a joint _ undertaking to this end. Now our goal is to improve and. extend this program so that all aspects of the problem can be attacked at the same time. I am confident that H.R. 4879, if passed, will be a historic turning point in public library development. No aspect of our entire educational system is more important than the firm foundation which is provided by having good librar- ies freely and conveniently available. I support the Library Services and Con- struction Act and urge its prompt en- actment. Mr. Chairman, a previous reference has been made to the new budget. In view of this I should like to set the rec- ord straight. Here are the facts. The fiscal 1965 budget which President Johnson has submitted today breaks new ground: Ii reduces total Federal spending by $500 million—yet, within that total, it. provides for major increases in the fields of education, health, labor, and welfare. It proposes to cut the Federal deficit — in half—yet it calls for an $11 billion tax reduction, and provides the largest year- to-year economic stimulus of any peace- time budget. It is perfectly natural to wonder how a single budget can accomplish these various—and ‘at first glance, contradic- tory—objectives. But, Mr. Chairman, I submit that a closer examination will show how this budget is a closely rea- soned, careful program with clear and straightforward objectives and a con- sistent, philosophical foundation. In the first place, this budget is built upon the premise that frugality in Fed- eral expenditures can be a weapon for social progress. Out of the savings made _Possible by a hardheaded and politically courageous review of lower priority ex- penditures and obsolete installation, funds have been released for use in con- structive ways to help the American peo- ple—and especially to enable those mil- 1964 lions of Americans living in poverty to help themselves. Frugality has not been practiced merely for frugality’s sake. ‘This budget proposes major increases in funds for education, youth employment opportunities, manpower training, voca- tional education. and rehabilitation, health, and welfare. It also proposes the launching of an intensive attack against poverty in. our local communities, and provides the funds for this attack. A tight budget, Mr. Chairman, need not be a stagnant one. In the second place, this budget is a fiscally expansionary budget. But it pro- poses to achieve economic expansion not through a vast: increase in Federal out- lays, but through a major reduction and reform in taxes. In 1964 the reduction in withholding taxes provided by this budget will put some $8 billion of addi- tional money into the pockets of Ameri- can consumers. Corporate tax reduction ‘will increase corporate profits. And as this additional purchasing power moves through the economy, it will build new markets and create new jobs. When fully effective, the tax cut will add $30 billion to our gross-national product over and above the economy’s normal growth. it will provide 2 to 3 million extra jobs, for the unemployed and the young peo- ple coming into the labor market. Mr. Chairman, as.I said earlier, no. other peacetime budget has ever pro- vided as much economic stimulus as this one. The effective way to end budget defic- its is through the combination of eco- nomic expansion and expenditure con- trol. As new jobs and new markets are created, national income rises—and, along with it, Federal revenues. Given the tremendous potential of our eco- nomy—now partially idle—economic ex- pansion will more than yield back. the revenues initially lost from tax reduction. In short, Mr. Chairman, a careful re- view of the budget we have received demonstrates that fiscal expansion can accompany. strict expenditure control and that a frugal budget can be a socially progressive one. . Mr. JONES. of. Missouri. Mr. Chair- man, I have asked unanimous consent to extend my remarks at this point in the Recorp, inasmuch as I was denied the privilege of making these remarks on the ficor, due to the fact that a motion of . the chairman of the Education and Labor Committee, to conclude all debate at 5:15, was adopted. I was on my feet seeking recognition at that time. A’ preferential motion consumed all of the time prior to 5:15 o’clock and none of those seeking recognition were permitted to speak. I will state here the remarks I had intended to make on the floor, in support of the Frelinghuysen amend- ment. ; I have been a supporter of the Library Services Act, and believe that under it a most valuable service has been ren-~ dered, particularly in the rural areas of this Nation, including the 10th Congres- sional District in Missouri. I favor the continuation of this program, and would vote to increase the amount of funds which would be available under the Frelinghuysen amendment, which would also expand the areas of service. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE However; Iam unalterably opposed to the new sections of the bill which pro- pose to embark upon a federally financed construction program for Ibraries, starting with an initial appropriation of $20 million. Where such a program would lead, it is difficult to estimate, put judging from other programs which were started on a small scale, with very small allocations to each State, but which have grown to enormous propor- tions; I think-it is not unlikely that such a program would eventually be expanded to a point where it would cost the Fed- eral Government not less than $100 mil- Hon annually. Such a program is not needed, and I oppose it. . We have been reminded that when the Library Services Act was adopted in 1956, all of the sponsors and the leader- ship of this. House assured us that this was @ 5-year program, with a termina- tion date. Some of those who made these statements back in 1956, and who are supporting the expanded program today, readily admit that they were in error at that time. I believe they are wrong today. : I think it should be understood by everyone that the present program does not expire until 1966, and there is no urgency for any legislation to merely continue the program which has been operated so successfully. As stated pre- viously I have supported and would like to continue to support the program which has been in operation, but I can- not in geed conscience vote to approve an entirely new program, which calls for the appropriation of Federal funds for the construction of library buildings in cities and communities, which are al- ready. supplied with library facilities which far exceed those which are avail~ able in our rural areas. Particularly is this true in the District of Columbia, which by no stretch of the imagination can justify the allocation of Federal funds for library construction purposes when the need is so great in our rural areas which are being benefited through the present act. We are. continually pouring money down rat holes in the District of Columbia, and this proposed bill is another instance of where commit- tees of Congress are continually trying to give the District of Columbia the status of a State, and to apportion funds to the District on that basis. Mr. Chairman, it has been my inten- tion to vote for a continuation, yes, even an expansion of the Library Services Act, but I will not, and I cannot in good con- science lend my support to, or vote for any legislation which proposes to appro- priate monéy from the Federal Treas- ury for building library buildings in com- munities which already have facilities far better than those in. our rural com- munities, which have been benefited by the present act, and which would con- tinue to. be benefited by this act if the Frelinghuysen amendment is adopted. It is my belief that to adopt the bill in its present form, will actually take away from the rural areas benefits which have been justified and which they have re- ceived in the past. For that reason, Mr. Chairman, I will support amendments and motions de=- signed to remove the construction pro=- Tol visions, and will vote against the bill if they are permitted to remain in the bill. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the preferential motion offered by the gentleman from Kentucky [Mr. Snyper]. The preferential motion was rejected. The CHAIRMAN. The question now recurs on the amendments offered by the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. Frr- LINGHUYSEN]. Mr, FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chair- man, I demand tellers. Tellers were ordered, and the Chair- raan appointed ‘as tellers Mr. POWELL and Mr. FReLINGHUYSEN. The Committee divided, and the tellers reported that there were—ayes 138, noes 121. So the amendments were agreed to.