November 17, 1969 Secretary Robert H. Finch Department of Health, Education, and Welfare 330 Independence Avenue, S.W. Washington, D. C. 20201 Dear Mr. Finch, Having juat preceded you on the program, I had the privilege of hearing you address the Mayo Alumni at Los Angeles Saturday afternoon. Before you arrived I had strongly supported and congratulated you for your actions on DDT and cyclamates. I was not so extravagant to tell the group that this was a more positive contribution to the health of the public than the sum-total of their "repair and salvage” operations. I was then rather dismayed and depressed at the tone of your own opening remarks which seemed to say “stamp put research’ for it is diverting our best minds. This was particularly oppressive in the light of the bafflement you must feel about the seientific base for the evaluation of environmental hazards. Then I thought: research muat be uncomfortable to the administrator on the spect as you are, for it undoubtedly exposes hazards and dilemmas of which all of us might prefer to remain blissfully ignorant - till the bodies pile up. Hon} Lda NtY Surely this is not your motive. But I wonder if you perceive how negatively you are coming across on this issue, quite apart from the hard realities of budgetary choices. You really sound as if you relish the demoralization of research, in which you may be all too successful. Nevertheless, I am too much in your debt in other areas todo other than cheer you on. And I am in absolute agreement with you about re-etructuring medical education for multiple levels of entry and exit. I do not think decrying research is much positive help. (It was not "academic medicine" that fought comprehensive health care tooth and nail!) Nor have we ssen much positive help for a place like Stanford to move ahead with ites own plans along these lines. Sincerely yours, Joahua Lederberg Professor of Genetics IJL/rr