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Madison 5 Wis
November 4, 1958

Dear Art:

In line with our phone call, I had a talk with Balph Hawley today.

I think I'm not deluding myself to think that he really might be interested.
But I think it would be best if I have moved out before a definitive offer
is made: I don't think my life will be safe. I had a talk with Bowers this
PM —- he wanted to know if there were any chance now of my reconsidering the
move (I am not sure by what logic)-—- and ik two successive sentences he men-
tioned that he'd be paralyzed ky without Ralph; but (in another connection)
he's raided other faculties without sending flowers to the Dean, We may want
to perform at least this couréésy.

I'm just as sure as ever that Ralph is the man we want, though a B.C.E.
or the like tight conceivably have a more appropriate technical background;
we might want to satisfy ourselves by looking for seme other alternatives
and I will try to do this here, My main concern is that our job may be
relatively too tame after his present one, but it may well not work out
that way at all.

Ralph Hawley has just turned 32 (but he acts and talks rather olders he

has wm a very soft-spoken disposition, coupled with a terrific capacity to

get things done.) He comes from Green Bay,Wis. got a B.A. here at UW, I think
in literature, came back after the war to start graduate work in clinical
psychology at Mich State, but fob various reasons (possibly partly academiy—
he's not all that scholarly in outlook-- partly family needs) left and went

into business, He co-ran a prbvate employment agency for a year, then joined

the Wis. State Bureau of personnel, mainly on work analysis and job classifi-
cation and grievance work. He grew a bit impatient at that, and applied for

a job at the university just at the time Bowers started up, which is how they
got together. (So I don't think he has any special] basis of loyalty to Bowers, )
Since then, about 3 years now, he has been essentially Bowers' Lyle 6ook, perhaps
just a shade less independent, and certainly no policymaker. The scope at UW’
hasn't been nearly so large, mainly a/c considerably less load in fundraising.
He has been the main funnel for budget making, a fair bit of purchasing, a good
deal of building-planning (and coordination), most of the personsel procurement,
He doesn't have much technical baekground as such, but I consider him a fairly
bright fellow, and having had 3 years of experience in the medical school contest,
likely to pick up what he needs fairly fast. He 1s beginning to have more and
worse to do with fundraising, e.g. grant writing for NIH etc. What I most

value is his even temperahent and his ability to hold on to a hundred strings

at the same time, There is no danger of bureaucratic officiousness, and he has
an inborn respect for scholarship that doesn't quite cross to the wring side

of deference. I think there are a number of impressions you'll have to make for
yourself, My owna are almost all good— as I've indicated, the only thing further
I could ask for is that he would kmow how a spectrophotometer worked; he does
know what it is, what it's used for and where to buy it, (I think).

I won't be too sorry if the President's or Provost's office eventublly did
grab him away-- we can always use more people like that in the administration.
His present salary is $8500, which 1s at least a masure of what Bowers must think
of him, I think we wught to see if we can't at least match that, to say about $9000,
This does seem like wuite a lot, but L,have no hesitation in thinking he would be
well worth it to me. (But of course I'm net paying for it out of my om personal
pocket.) If theretg any problem at all, it may be how this salary would relate to
other academic and business personnel on campus. But I see no reason myself why
we shouldn't qualify for an administrative adsistent of at least the same
usefulnesam and therefore presumably cost, as does the dean etc. I can hardly doubt
that Hawley would pey for himself many times over, not dnly in releasing our time,
but even cashwise in making it possible to exploit sources that we wouldn't persohally
want to bother about, e.g. that local Cancer Society senior fellowship, and some
other miscellaneous items I could think about. Finally, I have a little fear that
our interdependence fer space and equipment (this being a evphemiam for my dependence
oh biochemistry) may possibly just add one complication, and having a cannon administra-
tor would more than compensate,

How should we proceed at this point? I don't have the funds in hand, but have no
doubt about the possibility of its coming in, to throw into the pot. You already
have some tacit commitment fran Alway—- do you want to follow that up, or should we
write a Bitter together or what? (See what I mean about complications?) I'll be quite
happy if you'd call Bob on the strength of your previous understanding, and then when
we know where we stabd we emm can see about arranging for Hawley to visit you (if

he's still interested), BSMVEXXXETEE

Don't I wish I could heve had his services the last few weeks! But the grants are
all in now, happily. Just in time too (or there may be a causal relationship)—— I've=
just lost my secretary (1/2 tims),

I'm gsorrf we both have to fues at any length about this, but welre going to have to
live with, and have utter confidence in, the guy, Would there be some point in having
him move out to Stanford a month or two before you did TI should thénk there might,
if this were otherwise convenient,

Pro tem, I will be happy to organize the office equipment; if you or the gang have
any suggestions pass them on. (I exclude frem this assignment items of individual
use such as typewriters, dictating machines (I an using stenorette), etc.)

Ad ever

Joshua Lederberg