February 20, 1961 Dr. FP. R. Edwards Department of Health, Education and Welfare Public Health Service Communicable Disease Center Attenta 22, Georgla Dear Phi}: | hardly know better than you what to make of your 3 phase types. They may be related to the odd ball CDC-137 which proved to be Hy: H,'2 (sic). When you succeed in getting transductions In these stocks you can at least explore what the homologous replacements are. For example, | would try say: S. grumpensis 4:1,7 x Zia: Iw Z if you get d ——> Iw <—> or more Vikely 1,7: —>lwe—> 7 you can at least be sure that 2). —> Iw Is not merely a mutation like Hy? —> H,*33. Too bad you don't have some similar cdd balls In group B. Bruce Stocker Is visiting us again (till June), but we have very little Salmonella going on right now. Instead we are trying to work up Bacillus subtilis along similar tines (flagetier and antigen mutants). Good tuck, As ever, Joshua Lederberg Professor of Genetics Enc. Nester & Lederberg