requires that. the descendants of any cell be-immobilized-in the agar, in . They might be detected by scooping up the entire B)- colony. and plating’ it into medium lacking By and containing the other factors. I have done. this experimmt a good many times, and have censistently recovered types ' chance of avoiding contamination of prototreph colonies with ‘the parentals* however, but unlikelgy that the reliability of these data is influenced: _ YALE UNIVERSITY - |. QSBORN BOTANICAL LABORATORY __ -& NEWHAVEN, CONNECTICUT . . . ‘ j . ote Cee ee ok fe hg ta | fo Dog on les ta) ! 4 March 22, 1947. o 7 fae. - an CR ate Dear Mather-- ..- . Fe fhe interest in our research which your letters indicate is most gratifying; under the circumstances, one could hardly. consider you tardy correspondent; I wish again to express again my appreciation ©.» for the stimukation which these epistolary conversations have provide \Little progress has been made since my last. letter, since neither’ ofthe two projects: crossover-suppressor search, ner 4-strand evidence has born any fruit. In re the latter, and’ in answer to your question, ; it would ef ceurse be necessary to recover more than a single product... from the reduction’ of a. zygote. Theoretically this might. have been pessib as fellows: B,«'is a Treger’ segregant in the cross B-M-..X T-L-By<5. 0° to the point there mest the of colonies which appear on B,: supplemented plates will be By-. Since: the manner in which the crosses are peffprmed | such B,- colonies one might expect there te be a small-number of cells. -- complementary te-the B,~ segregants which are the ones selected for in thi, medium. E.g.; one might hope to. find B-M-T-L-,) er other combinations.» 4 other than the B)- constituting the overwhelming majer fraction of the colony. Unfertunately, these types have censisted exclusively of B-M- . cells with the same LacV configugstion as the parent, or of B,+ types... which undoubtedly arise by the (rare) reversion of the By gene. The™ quency of recombination (ca, 10-©) is still so low as to exclude the.’ Since these would be selected for equally as yell or petter than the hoped fer complementary. segregants, the failure to find. the latter cal be regarded as any indication of their true status. It may. sometime be possible to find material in which the major segregant, and both parental can be selected against, as would be demanded by this. experiment...) get . As to cressover-buppression,I have been looking for.types.in whig change between-B;,.and B is inhibited. About 250 isolates of Nitrogen tard treated material have been fested, but none of these have _shown failure of interchange.As such, suppressors would not.provide directs. dence of linear. arrangement; however I‘hoped to ‘have a sufficient icé lection of them involving ‘xax divers portions of the region BM--TL as well to be able to map them linearly on this region. But nomluck at “ally. On the question of the number of linkage groups, I have gone ovexiy tn possibilities of ‘spurious! linkage, and think the latter is excluded The crucial data are perhaps the following. (all loci + uhless indicate (B-M- X T-I-B,-) Be:B+t 11:79 Tao:T+ ° 9237 8 LetLt . 5251. These ‘with the By sesregation are enough to exclude 'spurious' linkage. It is’ possi by the chance of selection against B- types.even on B containing media, et: 4g it stands, however,;:all the data are explained on the basis ofia sing} group, apropos which.I, might mention that’ the sLacV segregation in 1! types supports the order B, --B---M--- rather than By cro B my he P DB ott “4 * : Fo a, How far one should go in attempting a ganetic analgsis of this indirect sort is, it seems to me rather doubtful. I do not have stocks with which: properly to perform the type off test for linear order which you suggested Unreasonabke assumptions of the absence of interference have had to be™ made because there is no direct test for it, and I wonder of the subject has not already been developed to the extent that it should be in the” present state-of our 'back ground! knowledge. For txample, the question : of 4-strand crossing over bears directly on the evaluation of linkage. data. For example,in your analysis ef the Lag, V segregation, you’ assigned the four classes the relative frequencies: : P9295, serene and p1P2P3+ OE oe However, 3. and 4- strand double exchanges also ‘yield single exchange’ chromatids which should also be considered among the contributors to. the | ‘FIFSE three classes. Finally, only a small fraction of triple exchanges - will give rise to triple-echange chromatids. for the fourth class. 1 have not attempted te. arithmetize this analysis; perhaps you may have. some suggestions. ge In regard: to-the. original analysis, it seems: to me that nas first three types should be in the ratio p rather’ than PQ ?Poa Teese on the following basis. On that anatysts.> only single exditene es ware considered for the first three types. In the absence of interference, . “%& the probabilities of intébdéfangeé art the class ef. single exthange types 3 should be ‘the same as for all types summed, ise. proportional to the map distances. One’ can then sskinaks use ng, to deckexminaxkkax estimate. the absolute distances .~ by. summingx f(p 7 *P9 8 ) cubed, is the probability; of a triple crossover, of which a determinat fraction are of the type © detected: inn What this will all look Like’ on a _four- strand basis “is: hard to. foresee... : ur a for, A Te eh AG to oY 3 : Pe “In the cross B- P- x p- L- “3 we. may have. the. following situations? Al ; mohs 9,40; FIN the | I see here the point where my letter was confused, M did not enter into the cross, and on the basis of the map one should still expect that B- would be more frequent than B+. The map may be in error, or my statement that B- is not more frequent than B+ may be incorrect; I suspect the latter for this reason: the relative frequency of B- was in this case estimated from the relative number of colonies which appeared on B supplemented plates. it turns gout that this is not a reliable procedure : for example, in the experiments in which B-:B+ was determined for the cross EMM B-li- X T-L-B,-, there were fewer colonies on B plates than on minimal , although thefe should have been an additional 12%. This probably stems from the fact that the background growth of the parental types is greater when 5 is supplied, and this may crowd out prototroph colonies. At all odds, this point will have to be looked into, and thanks for bringing it up. + Thank you also for transmitting the suggestion that we prepare some ef our material for Heredity. I rather think that we will publish most of our experimental material in this country for reasons of convenience. However, 1 have been preparing an analysis of the literature on the ‘genetic! peculaarities of bacteria, of which the re are many which are perhaps not wideiy known (and authenticated, for that matter). I have not specifically intended to publish this material, but if the notion Seems suitable, I shoulc be happy to submit it. Wy wife, Esther, extends her regards. Yours singerely, shua Lederberg.