August 4, 1952 Dear Hayess I'll be leaving fairly soon myself for a vacation — it's usually too hot and damp here in the summer to get much work done — and doubt whether there will be any further progress this summer. To answer a couple of your questions: Virtually all progeny of Hfr x F- are F-,/ both in their colpatibility reactions, and in their’&%bility to transduce F+. The F- pregeny, like the parent, can reveivedi+ from other strains. I suspect that the Hfr factor, like Mal, is regularly eliminated. This would make sense: the Hfr (imx i.e. F++) seems to determine the direction of elimination, and may itself be the controlling site. I am trying to set up experiments involving lifr//F- diploids (1.e., exceptions that have not eliminated) that might help to pxsouxhkiax test this idea, Our experiments on F+ filterability are quite indecisive. Cur pusitive results claust certainly cependec cn the presence of P+ celis in our"steriie" filtrates. SterLlity tests on Lysates are very tricky: I am still suspicious as to the possibility of relatively dornant filter-passing particles, which may regenerate bacteria only very slowly. In some tests, it has required two or three days for a "contaminated" filtrate to give turbid growth when added to fresh broth. In all such experivents, one has to use murkod otrains ag the source of the F+ agent (e.g/ an ST’ F+) and steam demonstrate the absence of this marker in the Fetransduced culture. This is obvicusly a sine qua non of transformation experiments ganerally. I haven't been able to quite make up my mind which strains to d:velop further. Some new people are coming in next mcnth, and I expect to get that program going by then. We have some strains which are ercssable with each other, and with F- K-12, but which show no signs of an infective F+ agent. I haven't decided whether it would be more aavantageous to invest a lot t&mx of effort on such a system, or to choose another F~ strain over which we have some control by importing F+ agents from K-1 2 s Sincerely, Joshua Lederberg