February 25, 1955 Dr, Clifford Grobstein National Cancer Trstitute Bebhesda 14, Maryland Dear Cliff: I thought you might like to know how our experiments came out on the trunamissibility of "F" through the thin millipore filters. Esther and I did severaj runs, including some dry runs with the standard .150 umn. filters. The results were quite definitely negative: whenever the F- culture had become F+ there had also teen a breakthrough of the F+ cells themselves. Technically, it worked out quite well: I had a fair proportion of break throughs when I smeared fairly large areas, but these vers readily diagnosed by the differential markers afterwards. We also ahecked that cultures growing on the same side of a filter, top or bottom, exchanged FP quite readily. We alec have some experiments on trying to cross Hfr x F~ through a thin filter; again, no success unless intact cells (i.e. markar combination-) had demonstribly gotten through. We did not begin to use up all the filter material you generously pro- vided. I would like to have the residue for odd experiments that may coms up, but if you are pressed, will be happy to return it. If you have occasion somtime to reorder a batch of the thin stuff, would you let me know an’ let us join in your order? Sterilization turned out to be no problem at all. UV was tried, and probably would work, put turned out to be superfluous, as the un-UV'd samples wera all yuite sterile (on EMB lactose medium). Ses you next month, Sincerely, fof - | PULA a //Joshua Lederberg P.S. We have some other evidence in support of the idea that F transfer is normally related to direct cell to cell contact.