May 14, 1976 Dr.Erhest C. Herrmann Department of Microbiology & Immunology Mayo Clinic Rochester, Minnesota 55901 Dear Dr. Herrmann, Thank you for your letter of May 8th. No, I really don't see any incongruity, nor while I found your article to be an intersting review do I find it necessary in direct conflict with any of the views that I have held or expressed. I believe that we should make maximum use of whatever sources we have available to meet current problems and we alao have to build for the future in as rational a way as we can. You comment yourself about the essentiality of improving our diagnostic procedures and I really don't see how we will achieve really profound successes in that sphere without rather careful application of the molecular and cell biology that has been accumulated over the past 20 years. I am sure you will find some more rigid dogmatists in favor of the monolithic pursuit of pure research who would be willing to take up the cudgels but I really don't think you and I have that much to fight avout. What may not have come through clearly enough in my necessarily abbreviated newspaper article was my concern about the origin of new viruses and the chance that we had to predict the possibility of the evolution of new kinds of human pathogens by mutation and recombination of other viruses in the environment, including recognized human pathogens, animal pathogens, and viruses now regarded as more or less innocuous. Believe me, we are in common company in the way we have at tines been treated by Science. I think I understand your grievance about contemporary communication with and yield from basic research but I think your point of view overlooks the ind&epensible contributions that have flowed from the aggregate of past yeare and decades, and I aubmit that thia cannot be ignored in evaluating it. Sincerely yours, Joshua Lederberg Professor of Genetics JL/rr