September 24, 1956 Dear Norton: How go the protoplasts? Since coming back to the lab after a sumer trip, and breaking in a couple of student-assistants, I have minly been busy with two things: learning how to grow L forms of E. coli, ami counting how many papers have already been published on the formation of protoplasés with penicillin. Both tasks have been messy: the lot of agar seems to be critical for the first question; as of today we've settled on a batch of New Zealand ager which seems far ani anay the best subéérate for L colonies of K-12. Yes, though the p. only enlarge and de not proliferate id broth, they give rise to L colonies ia tim (not on) the right agar. I don't yet have passage strains of the K-12 L, much less any experiments on thatr genetic properties, which is the point of the whole business. No more luck than that yet either on DNA effecta, but I've been hopeful that the L (1.¢., protoplastic) colony will be more susceptible. The part of this story that has provoked the most discussion has been the mechanism of penioillin action. I thought it was adequately covered in one sentence in the 7PMAS note, but evidently not, judging from the explanations that have been called for. I'm not surel'd bother with this at that, except possibly for the nonsense that Gale has promulgated. Anyhow, I thought you'd be curious to see this. If ‘ve seen a comparable formulation anywhere else, at least Quikex closer than per's, I hope youell let m know. Have you tallied to Dean Fraser within the last couple of months? What is versens doing in this story? Yrs. sincerely, ys, Joshua Lederberg ft - 4 . a ; P.S. I hear Tatum's coming to Rockefeller! “ow.