December 24, 1952 [Second reply to your last, dated Dec. & '52] Dear Norton: First let me send you best wishes for the season and the approaching new year. The old one, 1951, does not leave without a minor headache, namely that ¥ grossly underestimated reprint requirements for "enetis exchange in Salmo- nella". Originsll yf ordered 650 which seemed a sufficient number, and would have been ordinarily, Of these,éiycu should have received 200 by now. About two months ago, I realized this would be dnadequate and asked to igcrease the order, but the type hed already been killed! In order to fill my regular mailing list, I would need 75 (minimum) to 175 (max.) over the 25 still left dyom the first mailing. Obviously, I will not be able to fill the postaard requests ee I had hoped, and «ust forward these to you. On the other hand, many of your own requests may duplicate my list. Unless you have as many as 400, it would bs simpier for you to send your list to me than vice verea. If I may make a suggestion, you might have your secretary make out the address labels for all the reprints fou planned to send out, but forward these to me for checking. motto sank. the yaa bned(an ans onl she! pm oy retiirin ctlid dette It hove matie, BO MAb AOL eh aEMArge to have 2 complete listing made, in fuplicate, for future reference, My experience has been that if any list is to be keot at all, it hag to be done this eleborately. I am sorry now aot to have arranged to send out all the reprints from cone address-~it would have been auch simpler, but it's too late now. I am going to inquire into the costs of a photo-offset reprinting, and if these are not prohibitive }, will try to arrange to get several hundred more. As already mentioned to you, this reprint 4s not included in mailings to Rockefeller itself [except I notice that McCarty slipped by]. I hove 1 can rely on a sufficient supply to furnish copies to: Dubos, Goebel, Hotchkiss, Maramarosch, Braun, Horsfall-~all I can remember off hand. There will be a comparable situation with the Cell Genetics review, but there waa no helping this. You should get your kepy over tha weekend. There are som more interesting things to talk about. I wonder if it ian't time for us to start thinking about collecting the diverse evidence for the identification @f FA with phage for publication as a second collaborative paper, There are a number of approaches to this problem all pointing to the same direc- tion, but we have to be careful of the rigor of each. The consistency of the whole story has, I know, tended to make me a bit careless about polishing each angle of each individual approach. I suggest than that we asart collecting the detailed evidence so that we can go over it critically and decide what more needa to be done. One item that does need cleaning up is the identification of the receptor. One anomaly is 5. paratyphi A: Brace has picked up an O mutant which can be transinduced by PLT22/2. I can confirm this, but the efficiency is very low. The rate of adsopption of phage will have to be checked, as well as the nresumed absence of XIIz. On the other hand, I have an excppticnal paratyphi A from Kauffmann which does carry XIIs, and it should adsorb PLTZ2,. A second peculiarity appears s% in Boyd's work. PLT22 Appears to be in his Al group. Boyd records Al as lysing 5. bovis—morbificahs! I could not confirm this with any of our b-m (and his Al or PLT22), and Boyd's own strain died out. He is checking some others to see if this can be confirmed, in his own hands. I should not be too surprised if he was following a second, rough,phage in this case. I don't know the status of Sodamckasmuxistftewm S. abortus-bovis anent XIi,, but will check this at Chamblee. Another approach is to block the receptor (preferably in extracts) with antibody. Spicer is sétting this up, especially the more amusing experiment whether anti-IV will block XII of IV-XII complexes (and presumably not of IX-XII). He ia also trying somatic transductions, has some reconstructions that make the technique promising, but so far has succeeded mostly in consuming a good deal of serum. I will assume that you have nailed down the quantitative equivalence of phage and FA in filtration, adsorption to bacteria, and inactivag$ion by serum. In a sense these would show that phage and FA are enclosed in tke same kind of skins, but whether they are cohorts hinder the skin would still be unsettled. How about the rates of thermal inactivation and of differential centrifugation to clinch this end of it? Let me give a quick rundown on some of our more recent experiments. First,UV effects. All this is on PLT22 adapted to SW543 atrains (still uncertain whether thle is a mutative adaptation)-— "Q2B". Heavy doses (20 mins) knowk the plaque forming ability from ca. 107 to ca. 107/mL. I cahhot demunstrate multiplicity reactivation of the heavily irradiated phage, perhaps because I can't get away from it. FA initially ca_103, may rise 2-3 fold, as you found, for low doses, finally decreases to 10 107 /ink so that one can count plaques and transductions (Gal+, but Fla also tested) on the game olates. The transducees xxuxmmet remain sensitive to 228. Waiting for your records on 22, X-ray: 200,000 r (sic) gives about 10% survival of phage, ca. 30% of FA (not very accurate). There may be a rise with smaller doses, but these experiments are not very promising in view of the tremendeus duses needed throughout, and the small effects. Lwoff effect. LT-22 and LT-2(22) not very promising. SW-543(22B) works reasonably well (lysates to 1010) This phage behaves in, the pane fashion as 22B grown on sensi- tive 543 in transductions of Gal+ and Plat H or . Lysogenization: you have the data in my better of 12/14. Another point: As in K-12 and lambda, infected LT-2 or 543 give rise to mixed or contaminated colonies. As far as we can tell now, the transductions are not mixed for lysugenicity. Esther has done a very clean axperiment with lambda-transduction, with a comparable result. I would concluds that a transduction is, ordinarily, only that part of a progeny of an infected cell which has become lysogenic. This makes sense only in terms of segregation, presumably nuclear. A very useful new tool has just come up. In platings. of PLT22 on LT2 a clear plagqge was noticed, which, purified gave rise to a new phage we call 22V¥. 22V lyses LT2 almost completely-~ ca. .1% survival in one expt., mostly rough, mo lysogenic survivors so far-— but LT2(22) as cox registant. An experi- ment a la Burnet&Lush worked beautifully. Adding 1lO“PLT-22 to 10’ LT-2, followed after 15 minuted by excess 22V gave 108 lysogenic survivors. This should make it possible to detsemmine whether the particles in a prep. of PLT22 which transduce are the same as those which protect against 22¥ by inducing lysogenicity. 22V itself transduces to SW-435, but rather poorly. I haven't checked adsorption. It strikes me with some irony that I spent several weeks in'49 l@oking for such a phage or mutant for lambda, without success, and here this turns up of its own volition, Your letters have repeatedly mentioned a lytic variant, but as I have already complained you kept the details in your own mind, and I had no telepathic access to them. I&ve gone over the letters, and still can't make out the story. Do you keep carbon copies? I would appreciate it if you could start from scratch about xeks your interference exparinsnt, the lytic variant, und ths aulbiplicity axperiment in your letter of 10/31. I shudder at the possibility that you may ask me to do likewise, but I will ba glad to if T have {nadvertehtly left out any essentials. ile have to contend with the fact that unlike former days, your contexts are now no longer the same as minc, and we cannot communi- caty without being axnlicit. On phase variation, I have to wait for some more suitable cultures from Edwards, to find a suitably stable diphasic I can use to test the role of the phase of the reciplent cells in the transduction experinents. Sincerely, Joahua Lederberg P.S. Do you want 22V, or do you already have it?