November 11, 1958 Dear Art: I hesitate to take either your time or my own in replying to yours of the 6th, bit I do want to relieve you of any thought of self=reproach a propos Havley, No harm done at all, He is the kind of man I would like to see installed in the business service at Stanford, and quite possibly he might be more use to us, a8 well as all the way round, in, aay, Lyle Cook's office rather than our om, Anyhow, I'm not losing any sleep about it, I do hope you get someone with anough authority that I don't have to pester you about some details vhere our operations may impinge on one another, I had thought, perhaps misguidédiy, of Hawley aa the sort of person who could receive unilateral instructions from each of us, and mind his own business about 143 I can also see where you might be leery about the way this vould work out, You are a little more optimistic than I am about the chronicity of your detail load. but you may have had better luck beth with your secretarics and your associates than I have, If your paragon of an exceutive secretary has a twin sister, let me kmow, Fred Terman called me last night, as you doubless imow, asking me to investigate Johnson more thoroughly; I gather that issue is very much alive, and perhaps Terman was seeking my own personal reactioks, of which I have none at present, He alse intimated that Paul Dety would be a prime choice Af available, and this I waste no time in seconding, I have to admit I om thinking rather selfishly of a Chemist personally and professionalgy interesting to me, rather than the administrative needs of a department I kmow nothing about . I'm getting busy on my ‘intelligence vork' on Johnson today, I do kno: he ls very highly regarded indeed as a synthetic organic nan, De you know Frank Strong at all well? Had you given the least thought of him for the job-- or do you “ant more af x chemiet's chemist, so to sreal/ I'm still Bebating in my ovn mind whether to try to get someone like Havley for myself. There vrobably wouldn't be enough score in the job on that basie to intepost him or keep him busy, but there is enough to be aeserious distraction, As I've told you before, genetice will inevitably be more inter- dependent than Biechemistry, which means more minor but touchy situations, Witnese, e.¢,, the enclosure, but my reaction to which may probably be that we will use all avadlable resourees for classroom teaching, seminars, etc. , but that graduate training is a pefsonal relationship of individual rrofessors and their students that eludee organization and ‘correlation’, I'm not losing any sleep about this either - if a training grant means thinking up ansvers to questiong bike that, it's no unmixed blessing! Yours sincerely,